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Adam
15/03/2010 11:12:43
There were a few games where teams were looking not to get out. A bit boring really, so we were thinking of suggesting points for runs and wickets.
Anonymous
15/03/2010 11:13:59
The indoor points are here which are a nice starting point (they are for 6 wickets though) :
POINTS
The winning team shall claim ten (10) points and in the event of a ‘tie’ each
team shall claim five (5) points each. The side batting second and winning
may claim bonus points for ‘wickets in hand’.
. Maximum points available
= 18 points.
In the event of two (2) or more teams being level on points, precedence will be decided by the lowest run average against the teams per matches played.
Any team failing to honour a fixture or not being ready to play at the required time will be awarded no points and
their opponents awarded (18) eighteen points.
1. Batting bonus points:
50 runs 1 point
75 runs 2 points
100 runs 3 points
125 runs 4 points
150 runs 5 points
2. ‘Wickets In Hand’ bonus points:
6 wickets 3 points
4/5 wickets 2 points
2/3 wickets 1 point
3. Bowling bonus points:
Per two (2) wickets taken: one (1) point.
Russ
16/03/2010 09:28:30
Russ's version of the POINTS
The winning team shall claim ten (10) points and in the event of a ‘tie’ each team shall claim five (5) points each. The side batting second and winning may claim bonus points for ‘wickets in hand’.
Maximum points available = 18 points. 20 Points
In the event of two (2) or more teams being level on points, precedence will be decided by the lowest run average against the teams per matches played.
1. Batting bonus points:
50 runs 1 point If you don't get over 75, you don't deserve a point??
75 runs 2 points 1 Point
100 runs 3 points 2 Points
125 runs 4 points 3 Points
150 runs 5 points 5 Points
2. ‘Wickets In Hand for side batting Second and Winning’ bonus points:
6 wickets 3 points 10 Wickets 3 Points
4/5 wickets 2 points 7-9 Wickets 2 Points
2/3 wickets 1 point 4-6 Wickets 1 Points
3. Bowling bonus points:
Per two (2) wickets taken: one (1) point. SAME (Max = 5)
Adam
16/03/2010 09:31:56
bit worried a team could still get 68-1 to deny the other team maximum points, also does that mean you bat on for the full overs every game even if you pass the score to get maximum points?
Jeremy
16/03/2010 11:59:44
I like the idea of bonus points for runs and wickets and for wickets in hand.
I think it's very important that both sides have an equal chance of getting points regardless of whether they bat first or second but I can't see how to make this happen...
Jeremy
16/03/2010 12:01:14
I also think that no matter what system we use, there is always the danger that a crucial end of season fixture might result in negative play.
Russ
17/03/2010 10:08:13
Adam. If a team bat first, do the 68-1 thing, and lose they get no points at all. Because of that, I don't think it matters if the winners don't get max points... I can't foresee a situation where there'll be a tie on points.
Jeremy. The 'Wickets in hand' bonus points go some way to giving equal chance of points. That's how it works in the indoor league anyway. We could tweak the values to make it more equal....
Adam
17/03/2010 10:56:10
yes but the winning team chasing 68 will only get 13 points, unless you allow them to bat on and finish the overs, and get a higher score or get 5pts for losing no wickets.
Maybe it should be 1 pt for every 2 wickets in hand batting second.
To get max points, you need to get 150 and then bowl the oppo out, or bowl the oppo out and then get their score without losing wickets.
Jeremy
17/03/2010 18:00:04
MY POINTS IDEAS
Win = 10pts
Tie = 5pts each
Lose = 0pts (a change from previous seasons but made up for by bonus points)
Batting bonus points
50 runs = 1pt (yes it's a low score but why not!)
75 runs = 2pts
100 runs = 3pts
125 runs = 4pts
150 runs = 5pts
Bowling bonus points
2 wickets = 1pt
4 wickets = 2pts
6 wickets = 3pts
8 wickets = 4pts
10 wickets = 5pts
Wickets in hand bonus points
2 wickets in hand = 1pt
4 wickets in hand = 2pts
6 wickets in hand = 3pts
8 wickets in hand = 4pts
10 wickets in hand = 5pts
HOWEVER, a maximum of 5 points can be awarded for batting/wickets in hand combined. So batting 2nd scoring 100/6 would be worth 5 points. But succesfully chasing 150 without losing a wicket would still only achieve 5 pts. This means a maximum of 10 bonus points are available for both teams each game regardless of batting first or second.
Without this maximum a team batting second has more opportunities to get bonus points.
Jeremy
17/03/2010 18:04:21
AND wickets in hand points can only be scored if the team wins (preventing negative, defensive batting) which means that scoring 49/0 to win batting 2nd would also get you the 5 points but scoring 49/0 batting 2nd and losing would mean 0 points.
Does that all make sense?!
Jeremy
17/03/2010 18:06:25
Maximum points available to winning side = 20pts
Maximum points available to losing side = 10pts
Adam
18/03/2010 14:27:35
Jeremy, yes I like that, getting 0 pts for losing is fine, turning up ie fulfilling the fixture means you have a chance to get the bonus points.
How about if a team turns up with only 9 players, if the other team get them all out do they get max points still? ie 10/all wickets gets 5 points. Wickets in hand will be fine.
Jeremy
18/03/2010 20:08:37
I agree. 10 wickets or all wickets = 5 points.
Rob
29/03/2010 14:15:21
I like the bonus points system used in the indoor league as it does give you something else to go for even if you are going to lose the game and the bonus points reward the side batting second when chasing a low score. I like Jeremy's suggested points structure - just one suggested alteration regarding the batting bonus points - looking at the league scores from last year these ranged from 58 to 188 so perhaps the batting bonus points should start at 75 (1 point) with an additional point for each extra 25 runs up to a maximum of 5 points if a side scores 175 or more? i.e. just shift the proposed batting bonus points up by 25 runs across the board. I agree with still getting max bowling points if you take all the wickets against a reduced strength side but what happens with the wickets in hand bonus points if the reduced strength side should win? Do they still get all 5 points if a 9-man side should win without losing a wicket?
Anonymous
10/08/2014 07:19:18
You've hit the ball out the park! Inlcidebre!






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